Comments on: Alton Towers Secret Weapon 7: Revealed /2012/01/07/alton-towers-secret-weapon-7-revealed/ An Amusement Industry Blog giving opinions and reviews along with updates, news and rumors from Amusement Parks, Theme Parks, and Water Parks from around the world. Sun, 24 Jan 2016 20:51:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.9 By: Harrison Pearce /2012/01/07/alton-towers-secret-weapon-7-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-1715 Sun, 24 Jan 2016 20:51:00 +0000 /?p=7332#comment-1715 its smiler and its not a master piece its a death trap

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32980354

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By: Dawski /2012/01/07/alton-towers-secret-weapon-7-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-1655 Sat, 20 Oct 2012 02:00:00 +0000 /?p=7332#comment-1655 SW7 Could be like Oblivion but Backwards the car falls into a revolving tube at top of lifthill as you fall backward vertical drop….you are looking up as the tube spins around the cars…. you see U.V spirals Twisting as you fall…… SW7 First backward freefall coaster in the dark ….

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By: Justice /2012/01/07/alton-towers-secret-weapon-7-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-1602 Sat, 18 Feb 2012 03:12:00 +0000 /?p=7332#comment-1602 In reply to Joseph Fells.

Perhaps I’m totally wrong, but isn’t this done by an architect, not No Limits?  If you look at The Swarm, there is no way No Limits is capable of doing half of the schematic elements demonstrated.  I can tell you for sure that the program used to generate these renderings is far more advanced than No Limits.  However, I suppose it is plausible, this was run through No Limits before here.  However, I find that doubtful.

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By: Joseph Fells /2012/01/07/alton-towers-secret-weapon-7-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-1600 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:41:00 +0000 /?p=7332#comment-1600 You echo my thoughts, but one minor criticism.

Someone pointed this out to me the other day on a forum… The track style in the plans looks more like MS than Gerstlauer, but it’s actually Schwarzkopf track. Schwarzkopf being the default track style in no limits, and this being an export from No Limits. 

So, track style is pretty irrelevant, I guess. But that begs the question, why isn’t this accurate when all previous planning applications have had accurate plans? I have no idea.

I believe that the noise report is simply making a comparison to Saw, because it is the most similar thing in the country. I don’t think it’s an intentional lie, I think it’s an elaboration compiled by someone who was simply told “it’s similar to Saw”. It’s fishy regardless, but it’s carelessness that probably doesn’t matter. 

If it is a Gerstlauer, I’d not be surprised, but I’m placing bets on Maurer.

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By: Justice /2012/01/07/alton-towers-secret-weapon-7-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-1597 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 02:31:00 +0000 /?p=7332#comment-1597 In reply to Marcus Gaines.

This is definitely legit.  The park has applied for similar applications most all major additions in recent years.  Not to mention, the exact same application process was conducted for Thorpe Park earlier last year for “LC12”.  LC12 was later announced as The Swarm with all the exact same thematic elements shown in the plans currently being built.

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By: Justice /2012/01/07/alton-towers-secret-weapon-7-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-1596 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 02:24:00 +0000 /?p=7332#comment-1596 In reply to Anonymous.

Excellent points!

I agree that Alton Towers would be able to market this as “World’s First Vertical Launch” if it actually paused in the vertical position before the launch.  

And I’ve completely forgotten about the X-Train design.  It does make sense especially with the shorter trains.  They’d also be lighter than X-Cars as well (or so I presume).  The three trains prediction was made out of maximum capacity.  However I could easily see a 4-5 car X-Train as well.

One point that does bring up is that, as we’ve seen from Intimidator 305 to SkyRush, when trains increase in width, the track does as well.  Its hard to get a sense of scale of this track from the diagrams, but I would imagine that introducing the 4-across X-Train will require some modification to the track design as well.  And perhaps this would cause some major changes to the launch as well.

None the less, great investigating yourself! Perhaps we should be on the look for the world’s first X-Train. 

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By: Anonymous /2012/01/07/alton-towers-secret-weapon-7-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-1595 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 12:40:00 +0000 /?p=7332#comment-1595 I believe they could lay claim to the World’s First True Vertical Launch Coaster, as the above article states, the ride may be launched in the vertical state. The Zierer Tower Launch is in two stages and doesn’t really replicate a rocket take-off, the trains are already travelling at 25mph+ before it hits the vertical section.

The track running up to the vertical section on SW7 does not look as if its designed for trains travelling at any great speed. My bet is that the train will hit a block brake prior to making the vertical ascent. It will then make a slow climb to the vertical launch position. The only difficulty will be creating a vertical launch from a stationary start. This rules out an LSM launch in my opinion, unless combined with a fast chain hill. remember, we’re only taking 28mph and 1g. However if this utilises 3 X-Car trains like the above article states, that will be one very long train and will probably fill halve the vertical launch track. Why wouldn’t they consider the X-Train design that Maurer Sohne are waiting use. As shown here http://www.maurer-rides.com/x-coaster/x-train/? This will provide greater capacity in a shorter train design.

Has the X-Train been used anywhere yet?
 
Any thoughts?

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